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ShivSena And Saving Maharashtra

An open letter from a blog named Shivsena to the author of another blog called Save Maharashtra. (Before you pounce on me – I’d rather have tea with Bush than Thackeray – If my life depended on it!)

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Vulturo
Jan 12th, 2006 at 8:37 am | #

Thank you for the link. It must be a really long time, that I came across a Shiv Sainik, who actually makes sense.

Aishwarya
Jan 12th, 2006 at 9:02 am | #

What Vulturo said. It’s great to read someone who has actually THOUGHT about the issue. :)

thennavan
Jan 12th, 2006 at 12:52 pm | #

This comment is to no one in particular and is a comment on the post being referred to here. I find that all over India people keep repeating the same mistake and seem hell-bent on perpetuating it. Once and for all, folks, Hindi is not the ONLY “national” language of India. It is “official” (for the purposes of government communication) and enjoys the same rights and privileges as other languages (or should I say vice-versa?) This eulogizing Hindi/Bollywood and everything else “regional” is nauseating to say the least and is at the root of much bickering and divisiveness in Indian polity. Let’s hope that at least a generation of more traveled, enlightened and egalitarian Indians let go of such notions and embrace all that India is made of.

Suyog
Jan 12th, 2006 at 8:46 pm | #

This is not targeted against anyone either, but I find only people from Tamil Nadu create such a hue and cry about Hindi being national or official language.

Accepting or embracing India as it is has nothing to do with whether languages are official or national or regional!

Get over it! Its not a big deal really!

Jeez!!

thennavan
Jan 12th, 2006 at 9:21 pm | #

This is again not targeted at anyone but why is it that when a logical fallacy is being brought to light, there is an objection “to that objection” (with references against a particular class or geography?)

Jumper Bailey
Jan 12th, 2006 at 11:42 pm | #

Tea with Bush or Thackeray? Ouch! Either one is a painful prospect. I’m with you on your choice…I’d rather have tea with Bush than Thackeray as well, but either prospect is unappealing.

And it would have to be some VERY good tea in either case.

Neha
Jan 13th, 2006 at 3:50 am | #

Jumper: I suppose it would be easier to throw the tea on Bush and convince the world that he had an “accident”. :)

Suyog: It’s impossible for you to empathize with Thennavan if your attitude is going to be “get over it”. You don’t get over issues of cultural hegemony – you question them – untangle them – and hope that something in the equation of hegemony changes.

?!
Jan 13th, 2006 at 4:36 am | #

I much prefer Thackeray.

At least the scale of his bigotry and the damage it causes is limited by his scope.

Dubya’s venality and messianic mania is detestable.

Ambar
Jan 13th, 2006 at 6:28 am | #

Suyog, did you have to go ad hominem with that?

And for the record, I’m not a tamilian but I find the idea of Hindi as the official national language detestable.

Suyog
Jan 13th, 2006 at 9:06 am | #

Neha:

The tone of your post was commendable – Thank you and I apologize for eating up your comment space; For the record it was tone of the other post which prompted me to react that way. I was depressed that even in times of great education, knowledge and knowing, we as Indians are still concerned about whats our official and whats our national language and all – and their differences? For once, can we not stop looking at region, languages et al and look ahead?

In any case, I wont hog comment space here more and turn this into a melee – the original link post was about something else, and its better that it stays the way it is. If at all, I will write up a post about it on my blog, & probably would invite the discussion there.

Cheers!!

Suyog

thennavan
Jan 13th, 2006 at 9:14 am | #

There is nothing about my tone there except one of clarification that “please don’t perpetuate this myth”. As this is “desi”pundit, I want to reach out to all “desis” (meaning people from north to south and east to west of India) to convey this. People who always say the bitter truth come out looking like villains and that is a “saabakkedu” (curse) of our country :-)

?!
Jan 13th, 2006 at 3:33 pm | #

Not_Targeting_anyone, one umbly submits that these fights would look best as mudwrestling@ cam.

thennavan
Jan 13th, 2006 at 4:34 pm | #

The mudwrestling@ cam shifts here :-)

Gaurav
Jan 14th, 2006 at 3:47 am | #

Coming back to the original issue, that blog-post really is great. In fact this is why I think Uddhav is a much better choice for the Sena than Raj.

Tulip
Jan 14th, 2006 at 11:34 am | #

yeah.. Uddhav has got an advantage of a firm party base behind him which Raj lacks. He may have got looks which reminds common people of Shivasena Supremo in his younger days but he lacks charisma which is required for crowd pulling. Besides, his background is also not very clear, people have still remember that Ramesh Kini case.

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