Comments on: ShivSena And Saving Maharashtra http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/ A Little Wit. A Little Wisdom. Lots of India. Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:03:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Tulip http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/comment-page-1/#comment-1988 Tulip Sat, 14 Jan 2006 15:34:34 +0000 http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/#comment-1988 yeah.. Uddhav has got an advantage of a firm party base behind him which Raj lacks. He may have got looks which reminds common people of Shivasena Supremo in his younger days but he lacks charisma which is required for crowd pulling. Besides, his background is also not very clear, people have still remember that Ramesh Kini case. yeah.. Uddhav has got an advantage of a firm party base behind him which Raj lacks. He may have got looks which reminds common people of Shivasena Supremo in his younger days but he lacks charisma which is required for crowd pulling. Besides, his background is also not very clear, people have still remember that Ramesh Kini case.

]]> By: Gaurav http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/comment-page-1/#comment-1985 Gaurav Sat, 14 Jan 2006 07:47:11 +0000 http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/#comment-1985 Coming back to the original issue, that blog-post really is great. In fact this is why I think Uddhav is a much better choice for the Sena than Raj. Coming back to the original issue, that blog-post really is great. In fact this is why I think Uddhav is a much better choice for the Sena than Raj.

]]> By: thennavan http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/comment-page-1/#comment-1980 thennavan Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:34:24 +0000 http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/#comment-1980 The mudwrestling@ cam shifts <a href="http://thenathans.blogspot.com/2006/01/india-hindi-contd-part-2.html#comments" rel="nofollow">here</a> :-) The mudwrestling@ cam shifts here :-)

]]> By: ?! http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/comment-page-1/#comment-1979 ?! Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:33:34 +0000 http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/#comment-1979 Not_Targeting_anyone, one umbly submits that these fights would look best as mudwrestling@ cam. Not_Targeting_anyone, one umbly submits that these fights would look best as mudwrestling@ cam.

]]> By: thennavan http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/comment-page-1/#comment-1974 thennavan Fri, 13 Jan 2006 13:14:19 +0000 http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/#comment-1974 There is nothing about my tone there except one of clarification that "please don't perpetuate this myth". As this is "desi"pundit, I want to reach out to all "desis" (meaning people from north to south and east to west of India) to convey this. People who always say the bitter truth come out looking like villains and that is a "saabakkedu" (curse) of our country :-) There is nothing about my tone there except one of clarification that “please don’t perpetuate this myth”. As this is “desi”pundit, I want to reach out to all “desis” (meaning people from north to south and east to west of India) to convey this. People who always say the bitter truth come out looking like villains and that is a “saabakkedu” (curse) of our country :-)

]]> By: Suyog http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/comment-page-1/#comment-1973 Suyog Fri, 13 Jan 2006 13:06:32 +0000 http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/#comment-1973 Neha: The tone of your post was commendable - Thank you and I apologize for eating up your comment space; For the record it was tone of the other post which prompted me to react that way. I was depressed that even in times of great education, knowledge and knowing, we as Indians are still concerned about whats our official and whats our national language and all - and their differences? For once, can we not stop looking at region, languages et al and look ahead? In any case, I wont hog comment space here more and turn this into a melee - the original link post was about something else, and its better that it stays the way it is. If at all, I will write up a post about it on my blog, & probably would invite the discussion there. Cheers!! Suyog Neha:

The tone of your post was commendable – Thank you and I apologize for eating up your comment space; For the record it was tone of the other post which prompted me to react that way. I was depressed that even in times of great education, knowledge and knowing, we as Indians are still concerned about whats our official and whats our national language and all – and their differences? For once, can we not stop looking at region, languages et al and look ahead?

In any case, I wont hog comment space here more and turn this into a melee – the original link post was about something else, and its better that it stays the way it is. If at all, I will write up a post about it on my blog, & probably would invite the discussion there.

Cheers!!

Suyog

]]> By: Ambar http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/comment-page-1/#comment-1968 Ambar Fri, 13 Jan 2006 10:28:58 +0000 http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/#comment-1968 Suyog, did you have to go ad hominem with that? And for the record, I'm not a tamilian but I find the idea of Hindi as the official national language detestable. Suyog, did you have to go ad hominem with that?

And for the record, I’m not a tamilian but I find the idea of Hindi as the official national language detestable.

]]> By: ?! http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/comment-page-1/#comment-1965 ?! Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:36:49 +0000 http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/#comment-1965 I much prefer Thackeray. At least the scale of his bigotry and the damage it causes is limited by his scope. Dubya's venality and messianic mania is detestable. I much prefer Thackeray.

At least the scale of his bigotry and the damage it causes is limited by his scope.

Dubya’s venality and messianic mania is detestable.

]]> By: Neha http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/comment-page-1/#comment-1964 Neha Fri, 13 Jan 2006 07:50:37 +0000 http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/#comment-1964 Jumper: I suppose it would be easier to throw the tea on Bush and convince the world that he had an "accident". :) Suyog: It's impossible for you to empathize with Thennavan if your attitude is going to be "get over it". You don't get over issues of cultural hegemony - you question them - untangle them - and hope that something in the equation of hegemony changes. Jumper: I suppose it would be easier to throw the tea on Bush and convince the world that he had an “accident”. :)

Suyog: It’s impossible for you to empathize with Thennavan if your attitude is going to be “get over it”. You don’t get over issues of cultural hegemony – you question them – untangle them – and hope that something in the equation of hegemony changes.

]]> By: Jumper Bailey http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/comment-page-1/#comment-1960 Jumper Bailey Fri, 13 Jan 2006 03:42:07 +0000 http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/#comment-1960 Tea with Bush or Thackeray? Ouch! Either one is a painful prospect. I'm with you on your choice...I'd rather have tea with Bush than Thackeray as well, but either prospect is unappealing. And it would have to be some VERY good tea in either case. Tea with Bush or Thackeray? Ouch! Either one is a painful prospect. I’m with you on your choice…I’d rather have tea with Bush than Thackeray as well, but either prospect is unappealing.

And it would have to be some VERY good tea in either case.

]]> By: thennavan http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/comment-page-1/#comment-1959 thennavan Fri, 13 Jan 2006 01:21:18 +0000 http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/#comment-1959 This is again not targeted at anyone but why is it that when a logical fallacy is being brought to light, there is an objection "to that objection" (with references against a particular class or geography?) This is again not targeted at anyone but why is it that when a logical fallacy is being brought to light, there is an objection “to that objection” (with references against a particular class or geography?)

]]> By: Suyog http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/comment-page-1/#comment-1958 Suyog Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:46:47 +0000 http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/#comment-1958 This is not targeted against anyone either, but I find only people from Tamil Nadu create such a hue and cry about Hindi being national or official language. Accepting or embracing India as it is has nothing to do with whether languages are official or national or regional! Get over it! Its not a big deal really! Jeez!! This is not targeted against anyone either, but I find only people from Tamil Nadu create such a hue and cry about Hindi being national or official language.

Accepting or embracing India as it is has nothing to do with whether languages are official or national or regional!

Get over it! Its not a big deal really!

Jeez!!

]]> By: thennavan http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/comment-page-1/#comment-1956 thennavan Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:52:17 +0000 http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/#comment-1956 This comment is to no one in particular and is a comment on the post being referred to here. I find that all over India people keep repeating the same mistake and seem hell-bent on perpetuating it. Once and for all, folks, Hindi is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_languages_of_India" rel="nofollow">not the ONLY</a> "national" language of India. It is "official" (for the purposes of government communication) and enjoys the same rights and privileges as other languages (or should I say vice-versa?) This eulogizing Hindi/Bollywood and everything else "regional" is nauseating to say the least and is at the root of much bickering and divisiveness in Indian polity. Let's hope that at least a generation of more traveled, enlightened and egalitarian Indians let go of such notions and embrace all that India is made of. This comment is to no one in particular and is a comment on the post being referred to here. I find that all over India people keep repeating the same mistake and seem hell-bent on perpetuating it. Once and for all, folks, Hindi is not the ONLY “national” language of India. It is “official” (for the purposes of government communication) and enjoys the same rights and privileges as other languages (or should I say vice-versa?) This eulogizing Hindi/Bollywood and everything else “regional” is nauseating to say the least and is at the root of much bickering and divisiveness in Indian polity. Let’s hope that at least a generation of more traveled, enlightened and egalitarian Indians let go of such notions and embrace all that India is made of.

]]> By: Aishwarya http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/comment-page-1/#comment-1947 Aishwarya Thu, 12 Jan 2006 13:02:16 +0000 http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/#comment-1947 What Vulturo said. It's great to read someone who has actually THOUGHT about the issue. :) What Vulturo said. It’s great to read someone who has actually THOUGHT about the issue. :)

]]> By: Vulturo http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/comment-page-1/#comment-1945 Vulturo Thu, 12 Jan 2006 12:37:54 +0000 http://www.desipundit.com/2006/01/12/shivsena-and-saving-maharashtra/#comment-1945 Thank you for the link. It must be a really long time, that I came across a Shiv Sainik, who actually makes sense. Thank you for the link. It must be a really long time, that I came across a Shiv Sainik, who actually makes sense.

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