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		<title>By: Sagarika</title>
		<link>http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/2008/05/17/review-jannat/comment-page-1/#comment-5104</link>
		<dc:creator>Sagarika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 07:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brangan: I read this and went back to re-read your &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/2007/07/05/review-awarapan/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brood Awakening&lt;/a&gt;, because, for one &quot;brooding poetry&quot; provided a memory peg, and secondly, (re)examining it in the light of something that&#039;s its polar opposite helped me better appreciate that &quot;Mahesh Bhatt protege paying his mentor homage&quot; angle you call attention to in Awaarapan. (Besides, I needed to take another look at its closing lines just so I can shake my head and smile and advance this theory: how that jinx of a last line may have brought you the zero-character-arc cliche collage that&#039;s Jannat.)

I haven&#039;t seen this one yet but presume we don&#039;t have the &quot;..with Emraan Hashmi, we wait for the point where his heroines are reduced to breathing through the nose&quot; type attempts at asphyxiation (unfortunately for Hashmi, I know. So it&#039;s only fair that he be allowed to channel some of his must-smother-with-a-smooch desperation into &quot;smashing the display window of a jewellery store&quot;). For if we did, then the movie would have been titled &quot;Jahannum,&quot; I think. Small mercies...

Now all the bird talk this week (yes, I&#039;m counting Awaarapan&#039;s &quot;bird&quot; metaphor as part of this week&#039;s installment) reminds me of an Anne Lamott book I read several years back, &quot;Bird By Bird.&quot; It bored me for most part (because what I was really looking for was a memoir on the madness and magic of the writing life, not methods and mechanics), but its one redeeming facet was this central point she makes: &quot;We may notice amazing details during the course of a day but we rarely let ourselves stop and pay attention. A writer makes you notice, makes you pay attention, and this is a great gift. My gratitude for good writing is unbounded.&quot; I couldn&#039;t agree with her more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brangan: I read this and went back to re-read your <a href="http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/2007/07/05/review-awarapan/" rel="nofollow">Brood Awakening</a>, because, for one &#8220;brooding poetry&#8221; provided a memory peg, and secondly, (re)examining it in the light of something that&#8217;s its polar opposite helped me better appreciate that &#8220;Mahesh Bhatt protege paying his mentor homage&#8221; angle you call attention to in Awaarapan. (Besides, I needed to take another look at its closing lines just so I can shake my head and smile and advance this theory: how that jinx of a last line may have brought you the zero-character-arc cliche collage that&#8217;s Jannat.)</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen this one yet but presume we don&#8217;t have the &#8220;..with Emraan Hashmi, we wait for the point where his heroines are reduced to breathing through the nose&#8221; type attempts at asphyxiation (unfortunately for Hashmi, I know. So it&#8217;s only fair that he be allowed to channel some of his must-smother-with-a-smooch desperation into &#8220;smashing the display window of a jewellery store&#8221;). For if we did, then the movie would have been titled &#8220;Jahannum,&#8221; I think. Small mercies&#8230;</p>
<p>Now all the bird talk this week (yes, I&#8217;m counting Awaarapan&#8217;s &#8220;bird&#8221; metaphor as part of this week&#8217;s installment) reminds me of an Anne Lamott book I read several years back, &#8220;Bird By Bird.&#8221; It bored me for most part (because what I was really looking for was a memoir on the madness and magic of the writing life, not methods and mechanics), but its one redeeming facet was this central point she makes: &#8220;We may notice amazing details during the course of a day but we rarely let ourselves stop and pay attention. A writer makes you notice, makes you pay attention, and this is a great gift. My gratitude for good writing is unbounded.&#8221; I couldn&#8217;t agree with her more.</p>
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		<title>By: brangan</title>
		<link>http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/2008/05/17/review-jannat/comment-page-1/#comment-5087</link>
		<dc:creator>brangan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 03:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Q: But you seem to be having a serious engagement with it youself :-) But in general, I found this predictable, as you say, not jaw-droppingly awful -- hence the &quot;serious&quot; tone of the review. I can&#039;t believe it&#039;s gotten so many postive notices, though. To each his own and all that, but still...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q: But you seem to be having a serious engagement with it youself <img src='http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  But in general, I found this predictable, as you say, not jaw-droppingly awful &#8212; hence the &#8220;serious&#8221; tone of the review. I can&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s gotten so many postive notices, though. To each his own and all that, but still&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Qalandar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Qalandar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 20:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with Indraneel that Awaarapan (a much better frame of reference for this film) was better than Jannat.  Jannat wasn&#039;t &quot;bad&quot; in the way that Aap ka Suroor is, just mind-bogglingly, jaw-droppingly predictable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with Indraneel that Awaarapan (a much better frame of reference for this film) was better than Jannat.  Jannat wasn&#8217;t &#8220;bad&#8221; in the way that Aap ka Suroor is, just mind-bogglingly, jaw-droppingly predictable.</p>
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		<title>By: Qalandar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Qalandar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 20:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SPOILER WARNINGS (for all those who think that matters in a film like this)]

The script also features several farcical moments…one of my favs: terrorist/underworld kingpin Abu Ibrahim (played by Javed Sheikh) makes his money betting on cricket — but it never occurs to him that matches can be fixed until small time hoodlum Emraan Hashmi tells him! LMAO! The scene where this happens is priceless, you can see Sheikh staring at Hashmi, with the proverbial light bulb going off… simply hilarious!

Another great moment: Zoya loves Arjun (Hashmi) so much that she has him arrested so he can be reformed — and then starts working as an exotic dancer to make ends meet while he’s in jail, so they’ll have some money when he gets out… except she never bothers to keep up with him, and thus doesn’t even know when he’s released on bail (and continues working at this club until Hashmi randomly spots her)! LOL!

This film is so fake– Bhatt has no shame to go around likening this to Naam in any way, shape or form. I mean make what you want to make, but why pretend?

Other wonderfully farcical moments include the ones showing how Hashmi becomes a bookie. Apparently he knows nothing about cricket, nor is he fixing matches initially — he looks at a match on TV, screws his nose, and says sehwag will get out next ball…which of course he does! Once this happens a few times Hashmi’s got it made…LOL, who writes this drivel?

This is why Baradwaj is in a different league from the rest of us: imagine having to take this film seriously enough to write a full-fledged and even thoughtful piece on it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SPOILER WARNINGS (for all those who think that matters in a film like this)]</p>
<p>The script also features several farcical moments…one of my favs: terrorist/underworld kingpin Abu Ibrahim (played by Javed Sheikh) makes his money betting on cricket — but it never occurs to him that matches can be fixed until small time hoodlum Emraan Hashmi tells him! LMAO! The scene where this happens is priceless, you can see Sheikh staring at Hashmi, with the proverbial light bulb going off… simply hilarious!</p>
<p>Another great moment: Zoya loves Arjun (Hashmi) so much that she has him arrested so he can be reformed — and then starts working as an exotic dancer to make ends meet while he’s in jail, so they’ll have some money when he gets out… except she never bothers to keep up with him, and thus doesn’t even know when he’s released on bail (and continues working at this club until Hashmi randomly spots her)! LOL!</p>
<p>This film is so fake– Bhatt has no shame to go around likening this to Naam in any way, shape or form. I mean make what you want to make, but why pretend?</p>
<p>Other wonderfully farcical moments include the ones showing how Hashmi becomes a bookie. Apparently he knows nothing about cricket, nor is he fixing matches initially — he looks at a match on TV, screws his nose, and says sehwag will get out next ball…which of course he does! Once this happens a few times Hashmi’s got it made…LOL, who writes this drivel?</p>
<p>This is why Baradwaj is in a different league from the rest of us: imagine having to take this film seriously enough to write a full-fledged and even thoughtful piece on it!</p>
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		<title>By: brangan</title>
		<link>http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/2008/05/17/review-jannat/comment-page-1/#comment-5078</link>
		<dc:creator>brangan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 18:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indraneel: It&#039;s been a while since I saw Naam. I wonder how it holds up, especially as I&#039;m a big fan of Mahesh Bhatt of that period.
 
Ravi K: Ah, thanks. That&#039;s, er, &quot;nice&quot; to know :-)

Alpesh: Yes, I&#039;ve seen it. The gimmick that drives the film is taken from Memento, but there&#039;s a lot of desi padding around that. So I wouldn&#039;t call it a &quot;copy&quot;. What is this about, by the way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indraneel: It&#8217;s been a while since I saw Naam. I wonder how it holds up, especially as I&#8217;m a big fan of Mahesh Bhatt of that period.</p>
<p>Ravi K: Ah, thanks. That&#8217;s, er, &#8220;nice&#8221; to know <img src='http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Alpesh: Yes, I&#8217;ve seen it. The gimmick that drives the film is taken from Memento, but there&#8217;s a lot of desi padding around that. So I wouldn&#8217;t call it a &#8220;copy&#8221;. What is this about, by the way?</p>
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		<title>By: Alpesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alpesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 17:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering if you have seen Ghajini (tamil version), and wondered whether you would class it as a remake/copy of Memento.

I personally wouldn&#039;t.  I think Ghajini is as much a copy of Memento as Karma (subhash ghai&#039;s film) is a copy of Sholay.

I think it would be a shame if people went to watch Aamir Khan&#039;s Ghajini with preconcieved notions and be disappointed, rather than judging it on its own merits</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering if you have seen Ghajini (tamil version), and wondered whether you would class it as a remake/copy of Memento.</p>
<p>I personally wouldn&#8217;t.  I think Ghajini is as much a copy of Memento as Karma (subhash ghai&#8217;s film) is a copy of Sholay.</p>
<p>I think it would be a shame if people went to watch Aamir Khan&#8217;s Ghajini with preconcieved notions and be disappointed, rather than judging it on its own merits</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ravi K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 17:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Door Na Jana is an inspired tune:

http://www.itwofs.com/hindi-pritam.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Door Na Jana is an inspired tune:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.itwofs.com/hindi-pritam.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.itwofs.com/hindi-pritam.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Indraneel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indraneel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 08:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The character arc that you mention is apt as when I saw it yesterday, I waited the whole second half for something more to happen to Arjun, some facet that was not there in the first half, redemption or a different sort of move towards salvation..but alas..nothing..actually even his love did not come across pretty forceful or true, so much paucity of character sketch and scene writing!!
Ah..Gangster, Sadak, Naam or even Awaarapan were better!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The character arc that you mention is apt as when I saw it yesterday, I waited the whole second half for something more to happen to Arjun, some facet that was not there in the first half, redemption or a different sort of move towards salvation..but alas..nothing..actually even his love did not come across pretty forceful or true, so much paucity of character sketch and scene writing!!<br />
Ah..Gangster, Sadak, Naam or even Awaarapan were better!!</p>
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		<title>By: brangan</title>
		<link>http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/2008/05/17/review-jannat/comment-page-1/#comment-5067</link>
		<dc:creator>brangan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 05:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oindri: Nope. And you&#039;re right -- you never know with Pritam. But that&#039;s the thing with reviews. If you&#039;ve already seen/heard the film/song that&#039;s been lifted, you get all how-could-he and flustered, but if you haven&#039;t, you just respond to the work in question. And sometimes that response is a &quot;nice.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oindri: Nope. And you&#8217;re right &#8212; you never know with Pritam. But that&#8217;s the thing with reviews. If you&#8217;ve already seen/heard the film/song that&#8217;s been lifted, you get all how-could-he and flustered, but if you haven&#8217;t, you just respond to the work in question. And sometimes that response is a &#8220;nice.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Oindri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oindri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 05:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you sure Pritam&#039;s &quot;nice&quot; tunes aren&#039;t again just copies of obscure J-pop songs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you sure Pritam&#8217;s &#8220;nice&#8221; tunes aren&#8217;t again just copies of obscure J-pop songs?</p>
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