Comments on: The Creative Art of Compromise http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/2008/08/12/the-creative-art-of-compromise/ Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:32:37 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Shankar http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/2008/08/12/the-creative-art-of-compromise/comment-page-2/#comment-6858 Shankar Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:07:15 +0000 http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/?p=264#comment-6858 raj, my mom is from there and I did part of my schooling in Madurai!! This was in 86/87. raj, my mom is from there and I did part of my schooling in Madurai!! This was in 86/87.

]]> By: raj http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/2008/08/12/the-creative-art-of-compromise/comment-page-2/#comment-6854 raj Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:35:39 +0000 http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/?p=264#comment-6854 shankar, yes shankar, yes

]]> By: Anand http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/2008/08/12/the-creative-art-of-compromise/comment-page-2/#comment-6846 Anand Wed, 20 Aug 2008 04:54:36 +0000 http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/?p=264#comment-6846 Nilavu thoongum neram was even better...the song's pitch suited Mano to a T! Nilavu thoongum neram was even better…the song’s pitch suited Mano to a T!

]]> By: Shankar http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/2008/08/12/the-creative-art-of-compromise/comment-page-2/#comment-6837 Shankar Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:17:18 +0000 http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/?p=264#comment-6837 raj, are you from Madurai? Of course, we do know the shelf life of IR's 80s hits!! I don't think there is any need to elaborate on that. :-) That was an altogether different plane... BTW, Goods vandiyile and Raasathi manasule are still eminently listenable... raj, are you from Madurai?

Of course, we do know the shelf life of IR’s 80s hits!! I don’t think there is any need to elaborate on that. :-) That was an altogether different plane…

BTW, Goods vandiyile and Raasathi manasule are still eminently listenable…

]]> By: raj http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/2008/08/12/the-creative-art-of-compromise/comment-page-2/#comment-6833 raj Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:22:08 +0000 http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/?p=264#comment-6833 anand, however I still do listen to Munbe Vaa and even 'Thambi'. About shelf life of IR songs, especially in and around Madurai, thats a different point altogether. For that matter, I recently went around Madurai, Azhagar Kovil, Thirumogur etc. and IR still rules there! You wouldnt believe it but I hardly got to hear the latest hitz as I went around especially as you got out of Madurai and veered towards the small villages - it was still Annakili, Kunguma Chimizh(can you place that one), Raasave Unnai Nambi(Can you place THAT one?) etc. anand, however I still do listen to Munbe Vaa and even ‘Thambi’.
About shelf life of IR songs, especially in and around Madurai, thats a different point altogether.
For that matter, I recently went around Madurai, Azhagar Kovil, Thirumogur etc. and IR still rules there! You wouldnt believe it but I hardly got to hear the latest hitz as I went around especially as you got out of Madurai and veered towards the small villages – it was still Annakili, Kunguma Chimizh(can you place that one), Raasave Unnai Nambi(Can you place THAT one?) etc.

]]> By: Anand http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/2008/08/12/the-creative-art-of-compromise/comment-page-2/#comment-6832 Anand Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:31:59 +0000 http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/?p=264#comment-6832 Raj..some nitpicking on your comment :-) Shelf life of songs were longer during that period..today we do not listen to ballelakka but we listen to nakka mukka, at that time, I remember songs were played out in tea shops for months and in some cases years together!! Raj..some nitpicking on your comment :-)
Shelf life of songs were longer during that period..today we do not listen to ballelakka but we listen to nakka mukka, at that time, I remember songs were played out in tea shops for months and in some cases years together!!

]]> By: raj http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/2008/08/12/the-creative-art-of-compromise/comment-page-2/#comment-6824 raj Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:54:34 +0000 http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/?p=264#comment-6824 br, two gripes on SMP. 1. If you take out the 80's recreation, there is nothing in the movie. 2. Nit picking - Siru Ponmani was late 70's. It may still have been well used but the point is the movie seems to be getting accolades for wrong reasons - succesfully recreating the 80's while the best song sounds like a harris jayaraj output from last year whereas the IR song reference belongs to late 70's. Even if you say not much difference between 1979 and 1981, I would say there was a lot of difference in IR's output post 1981. br, two gripes on SMP.
1. If you take out the 80’s recreation, there is nothing in the movie.
2. Nit picking – Siru Ponmani was late 70’s. It may still have been well used but the point is the movie seems to be getting accolades for wrong reasons – succesfully recreating the 80’s while the best song sounds like a harris jayaraj output from last year whereas the IR song reference belongs to late 70’s. Even if you say not much difference between 1979 and 1981, I would say there was a lot of difference in IR’s output post 1981.

]]> By: Anand http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/2008/08/12/the-creative-art-of-compromise/comment-page-2/#comment-6820 Anand Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:55:53 +0000 http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/?p=264#comment-6820 Good example of creative compromise in Tamil would be Hey Ram!! (Song with Shah Rukh, Bringing in Tushar Gandhi). BTW, I saw Hey Ram recently on TV. It worked even better!! Good example of creative compromise in Tamil would be Hey Ram!! (Song with Shah Rukh, Bringing in Tushar Gandhi). BTW, I saw Hey Ram recently on TV. It worked even better!!

]]> By: brangan http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/2008/08/12/the-creative-art-of-compromise/comment-page-2/#comment-6794 brangan Sun, 17 Aug 2008 04:53:13 +0000 http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/?p=264#comment-6794 karthik: Actually, no. IMO, Dasavatharam is an instance of a cleverly written film (on paper) that lost its way in the execution. What I'd consider a creative compromise -- though in a slightly different sense than I've talked about in this article -- is the 1980s setting of Subramaniyapuram. It didn't have anything to do with the film (in the sense that the film could just as easily have been set in today's times) -- but it was a creative gimmick that didn't violate the nature/intent of the film. It gave a buzz to the film and using IR's Siru ponmani was a great touch. If they had to pander to the audience, this is a great way to do it -- rather than putting in a koothu item number, which could have easily have been justified given the milieu. karthik: Actually, no. IMO, Dasavatharam is an instance of a cleverly written film (on paper) that lost its way in the execution. What I’d consider a creative compromise — though in a slightly different sense than I’ve talked about in this article — is the 1980s setting of Subramaniyapuram. It didn’t have anything to do with the film (in the sense that the film could just as easily have been set in today’s times) — but it was a creative gimmick that didn’t violate the nature/intent of the film. It gave a buzz to the film and using IR’s Siru ponmani was a great touch. If they had to pander to the audience, this is a great way to do it — rather than putting in a koothu item number, which could have easily have been justified given the milieu.

]]> By: raj http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/2008/08/12/the-creative-art-of-compromise/comment-page-2/#comment-6792 raj Sun, 17 Aug 2008 00:51:26 +0000 http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/?p=264#comment-6792 BR, appo who is responsible for Hey Ram, Dasavatharam, Gunaa etc? Santhana Barathy?KS Ravikumar? Kamal? Appo, Mahanadhi credit ellam Santhana barathykka? Appo Dasavatharam discredit ellam KS Ravikumarukka? Ergo, Kamal no longer is an egoistic, star-power, driven, self-obsessed, narcisstic megalomaniac. It is the director, silly :-). (Adhu ennavo, there seem to be different rules for different people - I am not saying consciously, but sub-consciously!) BR, appo who is responsible for Hey Ram, Dasavatharam, Gunaa etc? Santhana Barathy?KS Ravikumar? Kamal? Appo, Mahanadhi credit ellam Santhana barathykka? Appo Dasavatharam discredit ellam KS Ravikumarukka? Ergo, Kamal no longer is an egoistic, star-power, driven, self-obsessed, narcisstic megalomaniac. It is the director, silly :-) . (Adhu ennavo, there seem to be different rules for different people – I am not saying consciously, but sub-consciously!)

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